[Prorsum Semper]

Whether people like me or don’t … I accept my failings … yes I’m driven, yes I’m blunt and yes I do want I feels rights … but I do listen … if I didn’t … why on earth do I waste my time on here chatting away openly … you find me one owner, chairman, director in the land that is as open and with the fans as me …

Maybe these are failings in others walks of life but as a football club owner/chairman they would considered strengths amongst most fans, like you say other clubs owners don't talk to fans which is usually what causes un rest,or they only talk about the good stuff,we lived through that and then nearly went bust shortly after.
Keep being direct/blunt/Honest, it will make you more friends than enemies ,at least in the football world.

[Alex Petheram]

Thanks for the post sir and as always from you … a very rounded approach.

When Plymouth Argyle got into trouble 10 years ago or more now, I was part of a group looking to, with the then supporters trust at argyle, to gain some clout at the club and try and force a club board change … even though I would have personally put in say £1 million into this … with others doing the same, we couldn’t force anything … as it’s no different to you and me setting up an Apple Supporters Trust and trying to force the board their to change the new iPhone. We have no legal right to it. So for me … I think people within the trust need to try and understand what they want to achieve … and that’s not up to me.

I’m just an owner/ chair/ fan and director that needs help. Help from supporters to make the future better … it can be embraced or not embraced … but you’ve more say now in the club then you’ve ever had, that I assure you. Is isn’t about getting your pitch forks and storming the ground … as what did that achieve at Man United … and what will ever achieve … it won’t make the Glazer family leave that I know.

AP

[RJS]

To carry on a theme that Alex alludes to there is only one real exercisable power than any fan of a club has, and that is the extent to which they put money in the coffers of a club through attendance/merch etc.  The MUFC example is apt in this regard, storm the pitch as much as you like, you may get a conciliatory press conference or some meaningless platitudes, but come the first day of the season the ground was still full, the replica shirts were still sold so the Glazers will carry on doing what they want.

I haven't actively supported the club for over 20 years, I have only recently started attending again, and I have never been part of the trust or even really know anyone involved with it.  Reading between the lines both the club and the people currently involved in the trust seem on board with this so who would I be to question it.

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

I am extremely grateful for all that those 'at the top' have done to bring us back, fund a competitive team, and manage all the day to day unsung-ery that keeps us running commercially, and the National League administrators happy. These are exciting times and days where we are all pulling together. But let's not lose sight of the fact that no-one is bigger than club, no one always gets it right, and things change. And there will be times that fans will feel like they want to make their views known in a constructive, represented way that the decision makers are attuned to.

As long as the new set up allows a platform for supporters to do this (and feel they can make a difference) then I am all for the change as a way of galvanising supporters for the benefit of the club.

I post this as a fully paid up member of the Supporters Trust however I don't think this should make any difference. As fans we are all equal, and all voices should be heard.

[Grey beard]

I am extremely grateful for all that those 'at the top' have done to bring us back, fund a competitive team, and manage all the day to day unsung-ery that keeps us running commercially, and the National League administrators happy. These are exciting times and days where we are all pulling together. But let's not lose sight of the fact that no-one is bigger than club, no one always gets it right, and things change. And there will be times that fans will feel like they want to make their views known in a constructive, represented way that the decision makers are attuned to.

As long as the new set up allows a platform for supporters to do this (and feel they can make a difference) then I am all for the change as a way of galvanising supporters for the benefit of the club.

I post this as a fully paid up member of the Supporters Trust however I don't think this should make any difference. As fans we are all equal, and all voices should be heard.

A clear and well put post Shandy .

[Dommotyger]

Are you still hearing them voices AB?

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

Alright Dom, how did the op go?

[Gladfans]

Having read all the posts in this thread I feel that the overwhelming majority of replies are of a conciliatory and understanding- constructive nature which imo is a reflection of the trust ( no pun intended) faith almost everyone has in AP EM and PG ( the changing of colour of kit has since been long forgotten- helped by success on and off the pitch) . This is imo another progression within the professional approach being championed by the club. As others have said what the trust has done since it’s inception should never be forgotten and those involved should hold their heads high.
If 1% of the York City crowd wanted to get involved with a new supporters club how much easier it would be to run match days.
Once things have been decided maybe a A4 handout highlighting the supporters club - type of volunteers required- benefits of membership ( if any) might prove fruitful.

[bigdavethemaddog]

Having read all the posts in this thread I feel that the overwhelming majority of replies are of a conciliatory and understanding- constructive nature which imo is a reflection of the trust ( no pun intended) faith almost everyone has in AP EM and PG ( the changing of colour of kit has since been long forgotten- helped by success on and off the pitch) . This is imo another progression within the professional approach being championed by the club. As others have said what the trust has done since it’s inception should never be forgotten and those involved should hold their heads high.
If 1% of the York City crowd wanted to get involved with a new supporters club how much easier it would be to run match days.
Once things have been decided maybe a A4 handout highlighting the supporters club - type of volunteers required-  benefits of membership ( if any)  might prove fruitful.

what about getting businesses around Gloucester and surrounding area involved like offering a discount scheme at eateries etc if you show a valid membership card. im sure a lot of places will welcome every extra customer just now.

[Alex Petheram]

Have you read the article I wrote Dave? As that’s exactly what is/ will happen