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#71

(19-11-2023, 11:15 AM)Badger Wrote:  Disgraceful is all I can say Darren, the get the Chambers out gang decided to beat up some kids from Braintree. Pathetic. How to tarnish the clubs name, they really know how to drag this club into the gutter.
As we were leaving the match crossing over Llanthony Road, a group of these bumfluff morons were laughing about throwing/bouncing a coke can off the head of a Braintree supporter. This may have been just teenage bragging - but surely these idiots can be easily identified by the stewards and should be banned from matches? We don't need this sort of 'support'.
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#72

Sounds disgusting. Funny how there was no trouble in any other match so far this season. Alex needs to stamp down on it fast before it gets out of hand again
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#73

(19-11-2023, 11:57 AM)Darran Wrote:  Sounds disgusting. Funny how there was no trouble in any other match so far this season. Alex needs to stamp down on it fast before it gets out of hand again
A idea might be to develop a stadium code of conduct so that when you buy your online ticket you also agree to the code of conduct and if any transgression occurs the suitable ban etc is acted on.

Sounds a bit draconian and I much preferred the traditional paying cash at the turnstiles setup, but digital online does have benefits.
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#74

(19-11-2023, 12:39 PM)Paul Wrote:  A idea might be to develop a stadium code of conduct so that when you buy your online ticket you also agree to the code of conduct and if any transgression occurs the suitable ban etc is acted on.

Sounds a bit draconian and I much preferred the traditional paying cash at the turnstiles setup, but digital online does have benefits.
When you buy a ticket online it states that by purchasing the ticket, you agree to abide by the Stadium’s Supporter Code of Practice. Unfortunately the reality of the situation is not having the appropriate resources in place to administer the policy.
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#75

(19-11-2023, 01:52 PM)Traud1 Wrote:  When you buy a ticket online it states that by purchasing the ticket, you agree to abide by the Stadium’s Supporter Code of Practice. Unfortunately the reality of the situation is not having the appropriate resources in place to administer the policy.
 Tbh I haven't noticed the code of practice statement when purchasing so perhaps it might be made clearer. I agree about the available resources - and even if we had more stewards it's asking a lot to deal with the moronic  minority spoiling things for others. Some of the stewards are young people themselves. If we could get photos of the idiots and  turn them away at the entrance in the first place it might be better.
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#76

Better to try and prevent it though. For the 2nd half the two segregation gates were employed, but individuals were still allowed to pass through to go to the bar. An informal segregation policy means less bars/food bars are needed whilst providing some element of control. At some grounds we go to we are told the one end is for home supporters only. I think it would be better that way at MP, so with the segregation gates closed you just explain to away fans that they’re not allowed through. Obviously for bigger crowds or where police recommend it then full segregation kicks in.
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#77

Doesn't cost much for a decent CCTV system, stick a few cameras up, any away fans that start something can be identified and reported to their club, and same with the home fans.

As for the stewards, they are sometimes young, and I assume all volunteers? It's no wonder they don't fancy getting involved, and only turn up 5-10 minutes after something has already happened. A few weeks ago (Warrington maybe?) one of the stewards came across to tell someone off for vaping, and as much as he did seem like a moaning jobsworth, he got bonked by a plastic cup thrown at his head. No need for it, CCTV would show who threw it, whoever is in charge can deal with them as they see fit.

I don't want anyone kicked out and I don't like those sorts of measures, but if they can't behave? It's always "they started it, not us", so they wouldn't worry about CCTV proving it?
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#78

(18-11-2023, 08:28 PM)Neil Wrote:  No silly curfew today - all of the goals

All very professional goals. Love the camera work! I could watch them over and over all day!
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#79

(19-11-2023, 02:48 PM)T-End is in sight Wrote:  Better to try and prevent it though. For the 2nd half the two segregation gates were employed, but individuals were still allowed to pass through to go to the bar. An informal segregation policy means less bars/food bars are needed whilst providing some element of control. At some grounds we go to we are told the one end is for home supporters only. I think it would be better that way at MP, so with the segregation gates closed you just explain to away fans that they’re not allowed through.  Obviously for bigger crowds or where police recommend it then full segregation kicks in.


You raise some very valid points. I agree you go to the  likes of Kidderminster ( albeit we don’t now but just an example before I’m corrected!!) where u are allocated a section of the ground end of - no straying to get a pint etc - controllable. A million miles from our standard the away fans at Newcastle are up in the clouds - with I’m sure ample facilities suppled controlled. 

It really is a judgment call - speaking from experience— do we liaise with the visiting clubs in relation to the stewarding/policing required? Do you want to prevent visiting fans spending their money on food and beer ?
Segregation for all home games is the answer but do u open the away end food outlet for a few dozen visitors and possibly make a loss taking into account wages etc. - difficult. This was one of the reasons why the bar under the score board was created and the away end furnished with a food outlet to try and prevent any possibility of confrontation.
Sadly the club gave into a vocal beer swilled minority who insisted the purpose built away end now became the TEnd . The intention being home supporters in the new TEnd were allowed to leave in the event of any away fans hostility leaving the away fans within their segregated area .How ironic home supporters were held back on Saturday !
Fonzie you also raise some good points but as above typing from experience CCTV brilliant but you then need to create a “control box or similar “ which needs professional manning “  bearing mind upon such footage someone could lose their liberty.
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#80

I wasn’t being critical of stewarding yesterday btw - I meant to amend my post. Fair play to the young volunteers who stood between two sets of fans for a fair bit of the game. In hindsight it would have been better to say “sorry Braintree fans, you haven’t done anything wrong, but for everyone’s safety we’re asking you to head back down the other end”. But easier to refuse them in the first place than to have to shepherd them away.

Again, at away games, you often see stewards literally placed just to watch the away supporters. We can’t afford loads of stewards so need to police things where we can as fans, but think it is best to keep everyone apart. I know a lot of supporters say “but changing ends is part of non league” but first and foremost we need to protect our reputation.
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