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(18-01-2024, 06:20 PM)Stable Lad Wrote:  FFS !  Now is not the time to waive the white flag.  Now is the time to get full square 100% behind the team and give the rest of this season a right good go.

Yes, there's a lot behind the scenes that needs to be sorted, and I'm not belittling that problem at all.  And yes, things ain't been great on the pitch either.  While it's a very steep hill we've got to climb  it  'ain't over yet until the maths say otherwise.
Exactly that, Mr Miller. It’s looking like a mountain to climb, but it’s not over till it’s over. Our opponents on Saturday have dragged themselves out of worse a couple of times with no major investment or change of personnel. 8 points adrift with 19 games left. 57 points to play for, and if we can pull a couple of Curzon or Alfreton performances out of the bag and win two or three on the spin and it would all look very different. I’m not saying we’ll do it (and sadly Young Alfie isn’t here to mock my optimism), but it’s not impossible, and a noisy crowd getting behind Cookie and the lads can only help.

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#32

I can see the point of view that going down, rebuilding and bouncing back can be a positive - however, I just don’t think we’re that kind of club. I can imagine us going down and having exactly the same problems as we do now, but just playing less glamorous teams each week and being at the other end of the table.

When I look at the league tables of the level below, it’s just full of teams that I never wanted to play again and as a club we’ve said goodbye too. How many times have you all been asked what league we play in and then rattled off names such as Scunthorpe, York, Boston etc. it gives us big credibility.

If we did go down and somehow had a great season and bounced straight back, of course I’d enjoy it but we’d be exactly back to where we are now. Our aim should be to be catch up with our local rivals, and if we stay up we’ll be hopefully a league closer to both.

(18-01-2024, 06:20 PM)Stable Lad Wrote:  FFS !  Now is not the time to waive the white flag.  Now is the time to get full square 100% behind the team and give the rest of this season a right good go. 

100%! I’ve been worried about relegation since the summer signings and resigned to relegation since before Christmas, however it is still mathematically possible and we need to do all we can to get behind the lads for this final push to achieve a miracle!
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#33

(18-01-2024, 08:07 PM)Neil Wrote:  If we do go down and get put in the central division then there would be some proper shitty trips https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/south...l-division
To be fair that’s the same whatever league we are in
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#34

(18-01-2024, 09:30 PM)Darran Wrote:  To be fair that’s the same whatever league we are in
The thought of potentially being in the same league as Bishops Cleeve next season has to be the greatest incentive to escape relegation. The thought of them being our Boxing Day and New Year's Day opponents doesn't bear thinking about!
According to one prediction we escape by a hair's breadth: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/natio...XHkJf6Xrlc
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(18-01-2024, 09:01 PM)Daveangel Wrote:  Exactly that, Mr Miller. It’s looking like a mountain to climb, but it’s not over till it’s over. Our opponents on Saturday have dragged themselves out of worse a couple of times with no major investment or change of personnel. 8 points adrift with 19 games left. 57 points to play for, and if we can pull a couple of Curzon or Alfreton performances out of the bag and win two or three on the spin and it would all look very different. I’m not saying we’ll do it (and sadly Young Alfie isn’t here to mock my optimism), but it’s not impossible, and a noisy crowd getting behind Cookie and the lads can only help.

Whilst there’s life there’s hope!

I often think the reason we get on Dave is because of the shared optimism we have for our respective clubs.  Even when we got to 11 games without scoring at the start of this season I was telling people I was confident we'd stay up.  We've not yet got out of the relegation zone and have been in it since the 3rd week in August, but I still think there are 4 worse teams than us in the division.

As you and Lenny Kravitz both say, it ain't over til it's over.

You've got to keep that belief otherwise why even bother going on a Saturday.
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#36

(18-01-2024, 09:30 PM)Darran Wrote:  To be fair that’s the same whatever league we are in

I did notice that looking at the other league but there are clubs with more familiarity in those and to be fair, having had 15 years of the north I'd prefer to southwest for a change.

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#37

(18-01-2024, 09:35 PM)Paul Wrote:  The thought of potentially being in the same league as Bishops Cleeve next season has to be the greatest incentive to escape relegation. The thought of them being our Boxing Day and New Year's Day opponents doesn't bear thinking about!
According to one prediction we escape by a hair's breadth: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/natio...XHkJf6Xrlc
They wouldn’t be as only the national league does the Boxing Day New Year’s Day thing. I get your point though, but I think if we go down we can’t have this attitude that we are playing the likes of them and shouldn’t be. I’ve seen ex football league club fans do that and it’s not gone well.
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#38

(18-01-2024, 10:09 PM)Darran Wrote:  They wouldn’t be as only the national league does the Boxing Day New Year’s Day thing. I get your point though, but I think if we go down we can’t have this attitude that we are playing the likes of them and shouldn’t be. I’ve seen ex football league club fans do that and it’s not gone well.
True, hubris comes before the fall etc. It's because they're a C********m based club. You only have to look at Worcester City playing Tuffley Rovers to realise how bad things can really get. We're nowhere near that...
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#39

My inclination is that we're going to be relegated, but hopefully on Saturday we'll turn up, and support the team like they're a bunch of God's and miracles are commonplace. I've had the map out since well before Christmas and now know where Royston is , and I'd like to think that next year more people will turn up to watch a winning side in a division below with MC sticking around and guide us back.
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#40

Dropping down a league just does further damage to potential new fans. As was mentioned above, you've got teams in this league that people might have heard of - Scunthorpe, Scarborough, Hereford, Darlington perhaps. There are already enough teams at this level that when I'm asked who Gloucester have on the weekend the answer is met with a "where's that?" or worse a "who?". We don't need to be playing any more of them, and no disrespect meant by that. I don't buy that going down will help us in the long run, much the opposite.

Nobody wants to go down, we all want to stay up, let's not take our eyes off the goal. Need to be positive on Saturday and get behind the club, we just need a momentum shift, somehow, someway. Don't know where it's coming from, but we have to be looking for it.

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